DISQUS

ETC: Everyday Thoughts Collected: Fred Phelps’ god Hates Me

  • Amanda · 3 years ago
    Curiosity got the better of me, so I had to go look. They didn't say anything about you, just a link to your post in their "News" section.

    You continue to amaze me each day. Thank you for praying for these false prophets. They can still repent and come to know Jesus Christ. The question is, will they?
  • Dan Gonzales · 3 years ago
    At first I thought that might be a reference to

    http://www.godhatesfigs.com/

    which is a pretty amusing site.
  • carl · 3 years ago
    He preaches a false gospel and if anyone needs to repent it is he and his demon oppressed family.

    Well said.

    btw, what filter do you use?
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Amanda The Lord is amazing... I am just silly. :) I don't know if they will repent but I do know the Lord's heart and He would want them too.

    Dan ::: shaking my head ::: I think your friend makes light of a very important teaching. Humorous? I will admit... a little bit. But I find it more distracting from a great opportunity to teach than humorous.

    Carl, you know, I don't even know. I have like four different things running on my computer to protect it from spyware, hacks, virus, fishing (sp?) and all kinds of crud. It just won't let me go to some sites. I rarely notice it except it won't let me at the Phelps site nor some legitimate "gay" centric news sources.
  • Cheryl · 3 years ago
    I must confess that curiosity got the better of me as well. I had never heard of the Phelps prior to this blog. I had no idea the extent of their hate. Protests at funerals?!?!?!?!?! Those poor grieving families. How horrible...I can't even imagine what that must have been like.

    I felt physically sick after visiting that site. I echo your cursed fig tree prayer, Randy.
  • zombyboy · 3 years ago
    I went to their site for about a second. Then I realized that if someone saw their site on my computer it would have the same effect on my career as if I were surfing porn.

    And that's not a joke--just seeing the title, just seeing the content, on a work computer could be enough to get me in serious trouble. I can't imagine that this site that purports to be speaking God's word could possibly justify couching their message in terms and hatefulness so vile that I feel dirty just looking at it.

    Of course, to be honest, the message is so vile that there is no other way to dress it up.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Cheryl, their actions are pure evil. That's why I don't hesitate to say the things I do about the message they preach. I met Fred in person and challenged him...one of his friends spit at my feet when I refused to walk across the gay pride flag they had thrown on the ground.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Hi Zombyboy, it's GREAT to see you again. Your experience is another reason I don't link to their site.

    I completely agree with you. There is nothing they can do to dress up that hatred.
  • Scott · 3 years ago
    I don't think they pretend to dress up their hatred.

    Fred has pretty much stated that in public.
  • Cheryl · 3 years ago
    Randy that's horrible. If I had been there I would have cleaned your shoes.
  • Steve Schalchlin · 3 years ago
    Sometimes people like this just need to be ridiculed. Here's a video of an Australian comedian pretending to be a reporter who's coming on to the Phelps'. I think it's hysterical.

    God Loves Comedian
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Bummer Steve. I can't get the video to load.

    I bet it is just awful ...

    Awfully humorous!

    ... to the point that I would probably need to repent for laughing so much.

    Somebody please go see the video to make sure it's not tooooo awful for linkage :).

    I fixed your link Steve.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Oh... and I will try very hard to refrain from ridicule. I don't like ridicule so ... there ya' go.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Cheryl, thank you for the thought. They didn't hit my shoes fortunately. Believe it or not ... they weren't the scariest protestors at that event ('99 Lynchburg ... Steve Schalchlin was there.) There was a group from East Texas the Lord very clearly said "DO NOT go over there."
  • Amanda · 3 years ago
    It's quite funny...but I have this nagging feeling that I shouldn't think it's funny, you know?
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    I know Amanda. It's probably the Holy Spirit saying "no."

    That's my guess. I have the same feeling.
  • Wild Bill · 3 years ago
    Thanks for the link to the God Loves Comedian post on my site. I have received a few emails from the Westboro Church people. These people have lost their minds, if they ever had any to begin with.
  • BKater, Oceanskater · 3 years ago
    OK, that video was hilarious! The Westboro Baptist folks have no sense of humor.

    And why do they use the a** word all the time? I hate that word.
  • BKater, Oceanskater · 3 years ago
    I think it's funny because they really thought the reporter was seriously making a pass at Mr. Phelps. He even called on his wife for back-up.

    It makes me laugh, but it breaks my heart too.
  • Jay · 3 years ago
    I happened to be watching "Hannity & Colmes" last night when Fred Phelps came up. Apparently some of the military families have filed suit against their protests at funerals (and rightly so), and the Phelpses have turned to the ACLU, who are ironically defending them. You have to hand it to the ACLU; they really don't pick sides.

    And on another note, grateful though I am that both the conservative and liberal media are renouncing the Phelpses, I have to wonder if the conservatives would be this up-in-arms if the Phelpses were just protesting gay activists' funerals like they used to, instead of military funerals. Just a thought.

    (BTW, sorry for no intro. I'm an 18 yr. old from NC who's dealing with unwanted SSA. I mostly comment at Willful Grace, but you're cool too, Randy!)
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    ::: casting off the urge to pout over not being able to see the video :::

    BKater, I don't see why they say that all the time but they say much worse! And those signs they have are pornographic cartoons. I didn't mention that the gay pride flag I refused to walk on that they laid down right in the middle of my path had be defiled by who knows what. Their message is vile, it doesn't surprise me that they are willing to use vile language and imagery.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Hi Jay, I am so glad you think I am cool.

    I am honored :).

    I personally think the ACLU supports the denigration of civil liberties in the name of defending them. I think their willingness to defend the Phelps clan is a pure PR move to show how "fair" they are.

    When in fact it is just another opportunity to exploit true civil liberties in the name of preserving them.

    I think the vile message of the Phelps clan should be protected under "freedom of speech" but when they terrorize mourners at funerals... I am not so sure they shouldn't be punished. You can say stupid things without terrorizing these people who lost loved ones.
  • BKater, Oceanskater · 3 years ago
    Randy, a ministry acquaintance of mine did a debate with Fred Phelps a few years back on the topic of "Does God Love Homosexuals?" My acquaintance debated yes and Fred no. After the event, Fred (or someone in his ministry) drew lewd cartoons of my acquaintance and posted them on his site. Not cool.
  • zombyboy · 3 years ago
    The only good thing about Phelps--and it really isn't about him--is that his place in the world is so small. He gets press, he has a handful of deluded and confused followers, and he most certainly has the ego of someone with far more influence. The truth is, though, that his "flock" is small and his reach is less about the policies that he preaches and more about the people that he irritates.

    I'm comfortable with the thought that there aren't many people (Christian or otherwise) who agree with his view of the world.

    And it's nice to be coming by again, Randy. I've been busy with life and let the reading and writing suffer; I'm trying to get back into the swing of things.
  • Christian Connect · 3 years ago
    Fred Phelps is disgusting. I read on Christian Connect- http://www.ChristianConnect.com , that he protested Matthew Shepard's funeral. How sick to claim the gospel and not to know it.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    BKater I am so sorry to hear that they did that but I ... again ... am not surprised. They are like elementary schoolyard bullies with law degrees and demon oppression.

    Zombyboy I agree, his influence is truly very small. I was surprised at how little traffic came here from his site. I would have thought that the "car wreck" affect of people being entertained by tragedy would have brought him a heck of a lot more attention. Apparently not. I get more traffic from some of my friends blogs than came from his website.

    Again, Z, it's good to see you. I will be visiting your great blog on a more regular basis now that you are back in the swing of things.

    Christian Connect Yes I was aware he did that. In fact I did an interview in a MAJOR market on a talk show and it was about Matthew and the subject of Fred's terrible antics came up. I let him have it on the radio. The interview was supposed to only be 15 minutes, I ended up staying on the show for the full three hours. They played the clip of me calling him a false prophet full of a viper's venom for days after that.

    I think it is important to remember that the Lord would have the Phelps' repent if they would choose to do so. At the same time He is the one who set the precedent of publicly denouncing legalistic religiously harsh people who claim to know Him but obviously do not.