Yeah, I never saw "Brokeback Mountain" either, but I liked him in "the Patriot" and "10 Things I Hate About You". I was also looking forward to seeing him as the Joker. I'm like you, it's sad when someone so young and talented dies like that. Just imagine what he could have went on to do.
Eva
· 1 year ago
I think you might be up to 9 or 10 readers now. :)
Randy
· 1 year ago
I forgot about The Patriot. He did a great job in that movie. Thanks for the reminder Brandon.
Eva! Coool. I guess in another four years of blogging I will have 20 readers :).
Tony
· 1 year ago
I only saw The Patriot (one of my favorite movies - guess why) and A Knight's Tale. My opinion is that he was a very good actor. But why in the world would anyone try to speculate at WHY he died. We will never know the right answer to that question in our finiteness. If playing a gay character killed people, I'd be dead too.
Ok, so I'll tell you why The Patriot is one of my favorites: 1) It is based on a South Carolinian and set (and partially filmed) in South Carolina, and 2) the father/son story (Mel/Heath). It is heart-wrenching but... never mind - I'm going to go watch it again and pray for Heath's family.
Cheryl
· 1 year ago
That was a shocker. I also loved him in "the Patriot".
Brandon
· 1 year ago
Yeah, I never saw "Brokeback Mountain" either, but I liked him in "the Patriot" and "10 Things I Hate About You". I was also looking forward to seeing him as the Joker. I'm like you, it's sad when someone so young and talented dies like that. Just imagine what he could have went on to do.
Eva
· 1 year ago
I think you might be up to 9 or 10 readers now. :)
Randy
· 1 year ago
I forgot about The Patriot. He did a great job in that movie. Thanks for the reminder Brandon. Eva! Coool. I guess in another four years of blogging I will have 20 readers :).
Tony
· 1 year ago
I only saw The Patriot (one of my favorite movies - guess why) and A Knight's Tale. My opinion is that he was a very good actor. But why in the world would anyone try to speculate at WHY he died. We will never know the right answer to that question in our finiteness. If playing a gay character killed people, I'd be dead too. Ok, so I'll tell you why The Patriot is one of my favorites: 1) It is based on a South Carolinian and set (and partially filmed) in South Carolina, and 2) the father/son story (Mel/Heath). It is heart-wrenching but... never mind - I'm going to go watch it again and pray for Heath's family.
Cheryl
· 1 year ago
That was a shocker. I also loved him in "the Patriot".
Randy
· 1 year ago
Tony I had no idea the movie was shot in SC. That's cool. I love watching movies that were shot in environments I have actually been in. And I hear you, we have *all* fallen short (no matter what the sin is) and if that were the only case for God striking us dead the human race would have died out somewhere in Genesis 4.
Randy
· 1 year ago
Tony I had no idea the movie was shot in SC. That's cool. I love watching movies that were shot in environments I have actually been in. And I hear you, we have *all* fallen short (no matter what the sin is) and if that were the only case for God striking us dead the human race would have died out somewhere in Genesis 4.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Just curious. You said: "I never saw Brokeback Mountain, I never saw it because I don’t really want to." Why not? Why would you deliberately avoid the film? Ledger did a spectacular job of portraying a man struggling with his gay feelings. The film certainly did not glorify being gay.
The cinematograpy and direction were beautiful. The supporting cast did great jobs. It made my heart ache. I could identify with Ledger's character -- married, closeted and eventually losing someone he loved -- murdered by anti-gay hatred and violence. You really owe it to yourself to see it.
Randy
· 1 year ago
Why not? Why would you deliberately avoid the film?
Deliberately avoid? So strong a statement. I just don't want to see it.
Plus, if I wanted to hear one-sided progay viewpoints of "closeted" homosexuality...all I have to do is read your and other gay activists comments about me personally and/or the beliefs I ascribe to. I don't need great cinematography and dramatic reenactments to teach me that.
Why can't you ever stay on topic of a thread instead of trying to turn it to being about me?
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Randy, why the sudden defensiveness? I have made no personal comments about you or offered one-sided opinions on being closeted. I said I identified with the film -- particularly the Ledger character's inner struggle and the murder of his friend -- since my friend was also mudered for being gay. You don't have to be a "gay activist" (which I am NOT) or pro-gay to apprecaie the story of love and loss -- just human.
I have made no comments about you. You and I have not corresponded before now. I do not know what you believe -- except to assume that you believe that homosexual behavior is always sinful and that "change" is possible -- although apparently very hard to define.
I have simply asked you a question about why you didn't see the film and why you use words the way you do. I thought I WAS on the topic of this thread (the death of Keith Ledger) -- you mentioned you didn't see the movie and I simply asked why.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
It's obvious you did not see the film. It was not, as you assert, a "one-sided, progay viewpoint of closeted homosexuality." It was a story about a man who had "unwanted SSA" -- at at time and a place when you could be murdered if other people even suspected it. Sadly, such places still exist, even in our time.
Randy
· 1 year ago
not being defensive at all, I have no reason to be defensive with you . I just notice you seem to weave some sort of personally direct question or assertions into your comments each time.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Just curious. You said: "I never saw Brokeback Mountain, I never saw it because I don’t really want to." Why not? Why would you deliberately avoid the film? Ledger did a spectacular job of portraying a man struggling with his gay feelings. The film certainly did not glorify being gay. The cinematograpy and direction were beautiful. The supporting cast did great jobs. It made my heart ache. I could identify with Ledger's character -- married, closeted and eventually losing someone he loved -- murdered by anti-gay hatred and violence. You really owe it to yourself to see it.
Randy
· 1 year ago
Why not? Why would you deliberately avoid the film?
Deliberately avoid? So strong a statement. I just don't want to see it. Plus, if I wanted to hear one-sided progay viewpoints of "closeted" homosexuality...all I have to do is read your and other gay activists comments about me personally and/or the beliefs I ascribe to. I don't need great cinematography and dramatic reenactments to teach me that. Why can't you ever stay on topic of a thread instead of trying to turn it to being about me?
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Randy, why the sudden defensiveness? I have made no personal comments about you or offered one-sided opinions on being closeted. I said I identified with the film -- particularly the Ledger character's inner struggle and the murder of his friend -- since my friend was also mudered for being gay. You don't have to be a "gay activist" (which I am NOT) or pro-gay to apprecaie the story of love and loss -- just human. I have made no comments about you. You and I have not corresponded before now. I do not know what you believe -- except to assume that you believe that homosexual behavior is always sinful and that "change" is possible -- although apparently very hard to define. I have simply asked you a question about why you didn't see the film and why you use words the way you do. I thought I WAS on the topic of this thread (the death of Keith Ledger) -- you mentioned you didn't see the movie and I simply asked why.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
It's obvious you did not see the film. It was not, as you assert, a "one-sided, progay viewpoint of closeted homosexuality." It was a story about a man who had "unwanted SSA" -- at at time and a place when you could be murdered if other people even suspected it. Sadly, such places still exist, even in our time.
Randy
· 1 year ago
not being defensive at all, I have no reason to be defensive with you . I just notice you seem to weave some sort of personally direct question or assertions into your comments each time.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Just curious. Did you happen to see "Notes on a Scandal"?
Randy
· 1 year ago
No... I'll take the bait, why would you be curious about that?
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Just curious. Did you happen to see "Notes on a Scandal"?
Randy
· 1 year ago
No... I'll take the bait, why would you be curious about that?
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
It also dealth with the theme of a person struggling with SSA. Both movies "Brokeback" and "Notes" portrayed the "gay lifestyle" as sometihng miserable and lonely. You would have thought that EXODUS would have supported both films since they certainly did not glorify being gay. I was just wondering if you make it policy to not see films with gay themes.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Unlike you, it seems like Alan may have seen BrokeBack Mountain.
"Brokeback Mountain is a story of unbridled obsession and painful oppression—emotions that I and thousands of others who have left homosexuality are well familiar with,”
Maybe you could ask him about both movies. And by the way, Brokeback was not about "unbridled obession". It was about falling in love with someone at a time and in a place that could get you killed if anyone found out. These places still exist.
When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
Randy
· 1 year ago
You would have thought that EXODUS would have supported both films since they certainly did not glorify being gay. I was just wondering if you make it policy to not see films with gay themes.
TExodus supporting both films? ... that's a weird thing to say. It's not a policy but it would have to be very compelling. Most gay centered films are very predictable if not just the same caricatures revolving around the same plot themes and symbolism ... I find that boring. I didn't go see Brokeback because Alan did and I trust his opinion. Now that I have read more about Notes, that sounds more intriguing to me.
When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
Well, people can read our website and know that your summation of our "point" is a ridiculously negative reduction of our faith and belief system. It's astounding that you say that both films could be training films when they were made my pro-gay people and actors.
It certainly wasn't for me. I, and many others, didn't need a training film to know that.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
It also dealth with the theme of a person struggling with SSA. Both movies "Brokeback" and "Notes" portrayed the "gay lifestyle" as sometihng miserable and lonely. You would have thought that EXODUS would have supported both films since they certainly did not glorify being gay. I was just wondering if you make it policy to not see films with gay themes.
Michael Bussee
· 1 year ago
Unlike you, it seems like Alan may have seen BrokeBack Mountain. "Brokeback Mountain is a story of unbridled obsession and painful oppressionâ€"emotions that I and thousands of others who have left homosexuality are well familiar with,†Maybe you could ask him about both movies. And by the way, Brokeback was not about "unbridled obession". It was about falling in love with someone at a time and in a place that could get you killed if anyone found out. These places still exist. When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
Randy
· 1 year ago
You would have thought that EXODUS would have supported both films since they certainly did not glorify being gay. I was just wondering if you make it policy to not see films with gay themes.
TExodus supporting both films? ... that's a weird thing to say. It's not a policy but it would have to be very compelling. Most gay centered films are very predictable if not just the same caricatures revolving around the same plot themes and symbolism ... I find that boring. I didn't go see Brokeback because Alan did and I trust his opinion. Now that I have read more about Notes, that sounds more intriguing to me.
When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
Well, people can read our website and know that your summation of our "point" is a ridiculously negative reduction of our faith and belief system. It's astounding that you say that both films could be training films when they were made my pro-gay people and actors. It certainly wasn't for me. I, and many others, didn't need a training film to know that.
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Eva! Coool. I guess in another four years of blogging I will have 20 readers :).
Ok, so I'll tell you why The Patriot is one of my favorites: 1) It is based on a South Carolinian and set (and partially filmed) in South Carolina, and 2) the father/son story (Mel/Heath). It is heart-wrenching but... never mind - I'm going to go watch it again and pray for Heath's family.
Eva! Coool. I guess in another four years of blogging I will have 20 readers :).
Ok, so I'll tell you why The Patriot is one of my favorites: 1) It is based on a South Carolinian and set (and partially filmed) in South Carolina, and 2) the father/son story (Mel/Heath). It is heart-wrenching but... never mind - I'm going to go watch it again and pray for Heath's family.
The cinematograpy and direction were beautiful. The supporting cast did great jobs. It made my heart ache. I could identify with Ledger's character -- married, closeted and eventually losing someone he loved -- murdered by anti-gay hatred and violence. You really owe it to yourself to see it.
Deliberately avoid? So strong a statement. I just don't want to see it.
Plus, if I wanted to hear one-sided progay viewpoints of "closeted" homosexuality...all I have to do is read your and other gay activists comments about me personally and/or the beliefs I ascribe to. I don't need great cinematography and dramatic reenactments to teach me that.
Why can't you ever stay on topic of a thread instead of trying to turn it to being about me?
I have made no comments about you. You and I have not corresponded before now. I do not know what you believe -- except to assume that you believe that homosexual behavior is always sinful and that "change" is possible -- although apparently very hard to define.
I have simply asked you a question about why you didn't see the film and why you use words the way you do. I thought I WAS on the topic of this thread (the death of Keith Ledger) -- you mentioned you didn't see the movie and I simply asked why.
The cinematograpy and direction were beautiful. The supporting cast did great jobs. It made my heart ache. I could identify with Ledger's character -- married, closeted and eventually losing someone he loved -- murdered by anti-gay hatred and violence. You really owe it to yourself to see it.
Deliberately avoid? So strong a statement. I just don't want to see it.
Plus, if I wanted to hear one-sided progay viewpoints of "closeted" homosexuality...all I have to do is read your and other gay activists comments about me personally and/or the beliefs I ascribe to. I don't need great cinematography and dramatic reenactments to teach me that.
Why can't you ever stay on topic of a thread instead of trying to turn it to being about me?
I have made no comments about you. You and I have not corresponded before now. I do not know what you believe -- except to assume that you believe that homosexual behavior is always sinful and that "change" is possible -- although apparently very hard to define.
I have simply asked you a question about why you didn't see the film and why you use words the way you do. I thought I WAS on the topic of this thread (the death of Keith Ledger) -- you mentioned you didn't see the movie and I simply asked why.
"Brokeback Mountain is a story of unbridled obsession and painful oppression—emotions that I and thousands of others who have left homosexuality are well familiar with,”
Maybe you could ask him about both movies. And by the way, Brokeback was not about "unbridled obession". It was about falling in love with someone at a time and in a place that could get you killed if anyone found out. These places still exist.
When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
TExodus supporting both films? ... that's a weird thing to say. It's not a policy but it would have to be very compelling. Most gay centered films are very predictable if not just the same caricatures revolving around the same plot themes and symbolism ... I find that boring. I didn't go see Brokeback because Alan did and I trust his opinion. Now that I have read more about Notes, that sounds more intriguing to me.
Well, people can read our website and know that your summation of our "point" is a ridiculously negative reduction of our faith and belief system. It's astounding that you say that both films could be training films when they were made my pro-gay people and actors.
It certainly wasn't for me. I, and many others, didn't need a training film to know that.
"Brokeback Mountain is a story of unbridled obsession and painful oppressionâ€"emotions that I and thousands of others who have left homosexuality are well familiar with,â€
Maybe you could ask him about both movies. And by the way, Brokeback was not about "unbridled obession". It was about falling in love with someone at a time and in a place that could get you killed if anyone found out. These places still exist.
When you think of it, both films could be used to make EXODUS's point -- that giving in to SSA is painful, destructive and can lead to death-- here and hereafter. Heck, both films could be training films for EXODUS's negative message about being gay.
TExodus supporting both films? ... that's a weird thing to say. It's not a policy but it would have to be very compelling. Most gay centered films are very predictable if not just the same caricatures revolving around the same plot themes and symbolism ... I find that boring. I didn't go see Brokeback because Alan did and I trust his opinion. Now that I have read more about Notes, that sounds more intriguing to me.
Well, people can read our website and know that your summation of our "point" is a ridiculously negative reduction of our faith and belief system. It's astounding that you say that both films could be training films when they were made my pro-gay people and actors.
It certainly wasn't for me. I, and many others, didn't need a training film to know that.