DISQUS

ETC: Everyday Thoughts Collected: McCain Meltdown or Obama Blew It? The “Bail Out” and True Servant Leadership

  • B.T.Carolus · 1 year ago
    Great...so this has been a 750 billion dollar summer! "We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle" -- Winston Churchill.

    Anyway, the Obama campain should consider that the primary occupation of their candidate at the moment is Senator, and consider how it will look if Senator McCain gives a rousing speech in the Senate during a national crisis, whilst Senator Obama gives a speech in front of a handpicked crowd somewhere in Ohio.
  • editorgal · 1 year ago
    I enjoy your historically perceptive comments, youngin'!

    I, too, am tired of the government reaching its hand into my pocket, and then not spending my money in ways I find meaningful. I'm supposed to have a voice via my senators and representative. Call me cynical and jaded, but mostly I see my elected officials trying to serve contractors, campaign contributors, and BIG business.

    Hey, I'm not opposed to folks making a living, making profit, being successful. I do resent it when my support of their pocketbook is garnered without my permission due to exorbitant taxes - at the city, county, state, and federal levels. Don't even get me started!

    So, yeah, all those folks up on the Hill had better roll up their sleeves, make mega pots of coffee and get the sandwich fixin's and dig themselves in until they come up with not only a workable solution, but one with accountability and oversight. "When will they ever learn?" (song title escapes me, due to my advanced years!)
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    I love that quote by Churchill. One of my fav's.

    Right on with the second paragraph.
  • Shanie · 1 year ago
    Glad i can see some sort of young opinion here..

    I'm a 'fresh to the election' 18 year old girl whose really interested in Election 08 and the view you guys have on it. Check out my blog: blondegirlpolitics.blogspot.com
    Your comments would be greatly appreciated :)
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Well, you youngin's are welcome any time.

    And since you are young I won't pick on you for the blatant self promotion :).

    Or ... is that what I just did? ::: grin :::
    Come back any time :).
  • Ellie · 1 year ago
    Great...so this has been a 750 billion dollar summer! "We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle" -- Winston Churchill.


    Anyway, the Obama campain should consider that the primary occupation of their candidate at the moment is Senator, and consider how it will look if Senator McCain gives a rousing speech in the Senate during a national crisis, whilst Senator Obama gives a speech in front of a handpicked crowd somewhere in Ohio.

  • Shanie · 1 year ago
    Glad i can see some sort of young opinion here..


    I'm a 'fresh to the election' 18 year old girl whose really interested in Election 08 and the view you guys have on it. Check out my blog: blondegirlpolitics.blogspot.com

    Your comments would be greatly appreciated :)

  • Your Friend, I prmise · 1 year ago
    No chance this is only a ploy to derail the V.P debate? If the McCain camp doesn't want reporters asking the pitbull questions, I doubt they want Biden throwing questions her way. Besides, the senators are about to go on vacation. As if McCain didn't see this as a way to give himself pause after Obama took the lead in the polls.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    I don't think so. McCain can't do a stand alone speech worth a toot but he is a whole different kinda' guy in a town hall or debate. As for Palin, I have no idea. My theory is that she is willfully choosing what she will or won't do and because she isn't the Presidential pick it would be very important for her to do so. As someone who does a fair bit of media I don't jump on every offer given no matter how manipulative or demanding they might get. I am probably transferring my thoughts on to her so suffice it to say ... I don't know.

    I am certain McCain thinks this is more important and not running from the debate ... does it also help with some nefarious dodge of the VP debate? Maybe but I doubt that was the primary motive.
  • editorgal · 1 year ago
    I enjoy your historically perceptive comments, youngin'!


    I, too, am tired of the government reaching its hand into my pocket, and then not spending my money in ways I find meaningful. I'm supposed to have a voice via my senators and representative. Call me cynical and jaded, but mostly I see my elected officials trying to serve contractors, campaign contributors, and BIG business.



    Hey, I'm not opposed to folks making a living, making profit, being successful. I do resent it when my support of their pocketbook is garnered without my permission due to exorbitant taxes - at the city, county, state, and federal levels. Don't even get me started!



    So, yeah, all those folks up on the Hill had better roll up their sleeves, make mega pots of coffee and get the sandwich fixin's and dig themselves in until they come up with not only a workable solution, but one with accountability and oversight. "When will they ever learn?" (song title escapes me, due to my advanced years!)

  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Well, you youngin's are welcome any time.


    And since you are young I won't pick on you for the blatant self promotion :).



    Or ... is that what I just did? ::: grin :::

    Come back any time :).

  • Howard · 1 year ago
    We are facing the worst economic melt down since the great depression. McCain says it should take first priority over politics. Obama says if you need me, call me, I'll be at the debate hall. Then, Obama says McCain should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. First of all, Obama has never set aside his personal ambition for the good of the country. He has no sense of priority. The economic problem is huge, will effect Americans for decades, and deserves more than a Presidential candidate's rubber stamp, or blank check. The walk and chew gum cliche is about as trite as Obama's slogans ... like 'change we can believe in'. Unlike Obama, McCain is responsible, and has genuine leadership qualities. Obama will say, or do anything to get elected. McCain puts Americans, and America above politics, and personal ambition. No Wright, no Pfleger, no Farrakhan, no Rezko, no Ayers, no mean Michelle, and NOBAMA !!!
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Hi Howard. Thank you for your comment. I agree with almost everything you say but ... I just don't think Michelle is mean or bad. In the broader context of what she was saying I don't think she meant it anywhere near the levels she is being charged with. Why spin her into the mix when the rest of the crowd is enough to be a BIG WARNING to anyone considering voting for Obama.
  • Brady · 1 year ago
    Howard, I wasn't aware Obama was a supporter of Farrakhan. Do you have a citation for that?
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Oh yeah, that's true. I heard it the other way around ... that Farrakhan supported Obama and Obama denounced Farrakhan's more outlandish remarks ... or something. I am too lazy to google it right now.
  • Your Friend, I prmise · 1 year ago
    No chance this is only a ploy to derail the V.P debate? If the McCain camp doesn't want reporters asking the pitbull questions, I doubt they want Biden throwing questions her way. Besides, the senators are about to go on vacation. As if McCain didn't see this as a way to give himself pause after Obama took the lead in the polls.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    I don't think so. McCain can't do a stand alone speech worth a toot but he is a whole different kinda' guy in a town hall or debate. As for Palin, I have no idea. My theory is that she is willfully choosing what she will or won't do and because she isn't the Presidential pick it would be very important for her to do so. As someone who does a fair bit of media I don't jump on every offer given no matter how manipulative or demanding they might get. I am probably transferring my thoughts on to her so suffice it to say ... I don't know.


    I am certain McCain thinks this is more important and not running from the debate ... does it also help with some nefarious dodge of the VP debate? Maybe but I doubt that was the primary motive.

  • Randy · 1 year ago
    I love that quote by Churchill. One of my fav's.


    Right on with the second paragraph.

  • Howard · 1 year ago
    We are facing the worst economic melt down since the great depression. McCain says it should take first priority over politics. Obama says if you need me, call me, I'll be at the debate hall. Then, Obama says McCain should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. First of all, Obama has never set aside his personal ambition for the good of the country. He has no sense of priority. The economic problem is huge, will effect Americans for decades, and deserves more than a Presidential candidate's rubber stamp, or blank check. The walk and chew gum cliche is about as trite as Obama's slogans ... like 'change we can believe in'. Unlike Obama, McCain is responsible, and has genuine leadership qualities. Obama will say, or do anything to get elected. McCain puts Americans, and America above politics, and personal ambition. No Wright, no Pfleger, no Farrakhan, no Rezko, no Ayers, no mean Michelle, and NOBAMA !!!
  • saberman · 1 year ago
    McCain's suggestion of postponing the debates while he does whatever to help the economic crisis is either a cynical attempt to benefit from the misery or a "meltdown" in the sense that he has so little understanding of the situation that he does not want to embarass during a debate. It may be a combination of the two. We would be very foolish to give four additonal years to the same Republican leadership that got us into the terrible situations that we face today. And I am pleased that the polls are showing that the American public is finally starting to figure out that McCain represent a continuation of the inept and corrupt Bush leadership.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Hi Saberman, so ... how do you really feel?

    Thanks for adding your thoughts.
  • saberman · 1 year ago
    McCain's suggestion of postponing the debates while he does whatever to help the economic crisis is either a cynical attempt to benefit from the misery or a "meltdown" in the sense that he has so little understanding of the situation that he does not want to embarass during a debate. It may be a combination of the two. We would be very foolish to give four additonal years to the same Republican leadership that got us into the terrible situations that we face today. And I am pleased that the polls are showing that the American public is finally starting to figure out that McCain represent a continuation of the inept and corrupt Bush leadership.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Hi Saberman, so ... how do you really feel?


    Thanks for adding your thoughts.

  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Hi Howard. Thank you for your comment. I agree with almost everything you say but ... I just don't think Michelle is mean or bad. In the broader context of what she was saying I don't think she meant it anywhere near the levels she is being charged with. Why spin her into the mix when the rest of the crowd is enough to be a BIG WARNING to anyone considering voting for Obama.
  • Gina · 1 year ago
    During the Economic melt down, Obama is the one who responded like Bush with Katrina ... not McCain, as Obama would have us believe. After all, it was McCain who once again prioritized the melt down above his campaigning. It was Obama who put his campaigning above the melt down. Even if McCain was unable to influence the committee working on the melt down ... at least he tried ... at least he showed up ... at least he put Country before politics ... and, before his personal ambition ... unlike Obama. I say ... forget all the rhetoric ... talk is cheap ... check the actual records (and voting records) of these two candidates.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Agreed. Obama did that also when he tried to compare his running his campaign to Palin's executive experience. One small problem ... she was actually elected by the people to run the people's business. He developed and runs his campaign for the sole purpose of getting himself elected.
  • Gina · 1 year ago
    During the Economic melt down, Obama is the one who responded like Bush with Katrina ... not McCain, as Obama would have us believe. After all, it was McCain who once again prioritized the melt down above his campaigning. It was Obama who put his campaigning above the melt down. Even if McCain was unable to influence the committee working on the melt down ... at least he tried ... at least he showed up ... at least he put Country before politics ... and, before his personal ambition ... unlike Obama. I say ... forget all the rhetoric ... talk is cheap ... check the actual records (and voting records) of these two candidates.
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Agreed. Obama did that also when he tried to compare his running his campaign to Palin's executive experience. One small problem ... she was actually elected by the people to run the people's business. He developed and runs his campaign for the sole purpose of getting himself elected.
  • Brady · 1 year ago
    Howard, I wasn't aware Obama was a supporter of Farrakhan. Do you have a citation for that?
  • Randy · 1 year ago
    Oh yeah, that's true. I heard it the other way around ... that Farrakhan supported Obama and Obama denounced Farrakhan's more outlandish remarks ... or something. I am too lazy to google it right now.
  • Payday Loan Advocate · 1 year ago
    Many politicians are no friend to the payday loans industry. In order to raise voter support they choose to ignore what is best for the citizens. Some states including, Georgia, North Carolina, and Oregon have completely driven out the payday loan companies. Politicians still choose to disregard the benefits of the industry even though statistics in these states show a spike in bankruptcy filings, bounced checks and foreclosures. Even though these negative statistics have come to light, several governors are still trying to follow suit. If the efforts to wipe the industry completely off the map prove successful, some possible repercussions might consist of increased unemployment rates, more debt, more foreclosures and an even more inapt economy.


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