Pagan? Hmmmm... could you define that in this context. I called a friend a "pagan" once in jest because he said something off-color. In your list of four "pagans" is that comprised of McCain, Romney, Obama and Clinton without considering Huckabee a contender? I don't want to get stuck on that but that was the only part of your post I wasn't clear on. The rest I completely understand to be true. What I don't understand is why people are downright hostile over not getting the "perfect" candidate (in their own estimation)? In all honesty, I don't trust McCain and I worry that we will elect him only to find him actively work against our issues after Inauguration. It's happened before. Recently I was meditating on the differences between destruct and deconstruct. I still am but in this situation I know that destruction means destroyed. I believe Clinton and Obama would destroy. I am afraid that McCain will dismantle conservatism piece by piece. It could be put back together with care in the future. But for the time being, whether very important issues are "destroyed" or "deconstructed" either way they are not working, not effective or relevant to accomplishing what we consider the good of all. Anyway, I am thinking out loud here. Because I know McCain will do whatever he can to keep us safe in the war and that he is so strongly pro-life ... I won't hesitate to vote for him over the Democrat ticket. At the same time, I have no doubt the next four years is going to get downright nasty politically and culturally. Thanks for posting Paul.
Brian
· 1 year ago
Who is the one-time Muslim?
Paul Webster
· 1 year ago
Barack Hussien Obama was educated in a Wahabi school in Indonesia from ages 6 to 10. His grandmother is a radical Muslim and his grandfather is a marginal Muslim. Huckabee never had a chance to win the nomination. I am referring to Romney, McCain, Clinton and Obama. People make a big deal about a candidate's religious background. I think that is important. But I don't like splitting hairs about their Christianity. If someone is a believer than there is no compromise. If they are not, well, their fruits will demonstrate what kind of tree they are. I don't care where they go to church, I care in who they place their faith.
Brady
· 1 year ago
Barack has been pretty open about being a Christian and has been campaigning with several Pastors. From what I've read, he's been very active in his church for several years. I think calling him a one-time Muslim (implying he is not a believer, which is what you drew the connection from) is unfair. I'm also wondering why you used his full name in your comment. There are a lot of believers out there that weren't always ones, and to define them by a faith they had at 10 years old or a faith that their grandparents had really isn't giving their current faith any credit.
Paul Webster
· 1 year ago
Brady, You are right about me implying that he is not a Christian. I don't know his heart and that may have been a bit harsh. I used his full name to point out that, in my view, no one with that name - particularly the middle name - can be elected President of the United States.
Randy
· 1 year ago
Brady, I heard conflicting stories but wasn't Obama's dad a Muslim? I think the point Paul was making was more about people getting uptight about religious rumors and possible ties. and how that isn't what should be necessarily focused on. Paul of course can explain himself. But I didn't see him attacking Barack, I saw him making the case that religion is but only one of many concerns a person should take into account when considering a candidate.
Randy
· 1 year ago
Well, Paul posted his reason before I finished composing my opinion :). I love having multiple authors :)
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In your list of four "pagans" is that comprised of McCain, Romney, Obama and Clinton without considering Huckabee a contender? I don't want to get stuck on that but that was the only part of your post I wasn't clear on.
The rest I completely understand to be true. What I don't understand is why people are downright hostile over not getting the "perfect" candidate (in their own estimation)? In all honesty, I don't trust McCain and I worry that we will elect him only to find him actively work against our issues after Inauguration.
It's happened before.
Recently I was meditating on the differences between destruct and deconstruct. I still am but in this situation I know that destruction means destroyed. I believe Clinton and Obama would destroy. I am afraid that McCain will dismantle conservatism piece by piece. It could be put back together with care in the future. But for the time being, whether very important issues are "destroyed" or "deconstructed" either way they are not working, not effective or relevant to accomplishing what we consider the good of all.
Anyway, I am thinking out loud here. Because I know McCain will do whatever he can to keep us safe in the war and that he is so strongly pro-life ... I won't hesitate to vote for him over the Democrat ticket. At the same time, I have no doubt the next four years is going to get downright nasty politically and culturally.
Thanks for posting Paul.
Huckabee never had a chance to win the nomination. I am referring to Romney, McCain, Clinton and Obama.
People make a big deal about a candidate's religious background. I think that is important. But I don't like splitting hairs about their Christianity. If someone is a believer than there is no compromise. If they are not, well, their fruits will demonstrate what kind of tree they are.
I don't care where they go to church, I care in who they place their faith.
There are a lot of believers out there that weren't always ones, and to define them by a faith they had at 10 years old or a faith that their grandparents had really isn't giving their current faith any credit.
You are right about me implying that he is not a Christian. I don't know his heart and that may have been a bit harsh. I used his full name to point out that, in my view, no one with that name - particularly the middle name - can be elected President of the United States.
Paul of course can explain himself. But I didn't see him attacking Barack, I saw him making the case that religion is but only one of many concerns a person should take into account when considering a candidate.