DISQUS

ETC: Everyday Thoughts Collected: War With Iran

  • tedw · 3 years ago
    I think war is inevitable with Iran also. We are not dealing with flesh and blood leaders in Iran, we are dealing with a spirit of evil. Something Satanic.

    Isreal is waiting to see if we will act. If we dont, then they will have no choice but to do it themselves. And they may have to use nuclear weapons to prevail.

    You cant make peace with a snake.
  • Jack Yan · 3 years ago
    I am concerned. Also some of the angst is coming from the MSM (OK, independent media are on the story, too) so I am not sure if I should believe it all. Maybe I am in denial? I do know a lot of Iranians hate their government, from the blogs I read, but after seeing all the suspected sites on Fox News this morning, that’s way too many for regular Iranians to rise up against.
  • tedw · 3 years ago
    I think war is inevitable with Iran also. We are not dealing with flesh and blood leaders in Iran, we are dealing with a spirit of evil. Something Satanic.
    Isreal is waiting to see if we will act. If we dont, then they will have no choice but to do it themselves. And they may have to use nuclear weapons to prevail.
    You cant make peace with a snake.
  • Dawn · 3 years ago
    I have to admit that I am very unsettled as well. I think the reprocusions of an attack on Iran are... well quite scary. I mean, if we truly are in the last days (which I believe we are), this could affect us in ways we might never have imagined.
    Having said that, I too fear a confrontation with them is coming.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Our media seems to be sending out enough signals of new armament and whatnot to let the Iranians know we are close to moving. The other night, I forget where, they mentioned that their might be an escalation of using "conventional" nuclear weapons. That sent a shiver down my spine.
  • Dawn · 3 years ago
    I have to admit that I am very unsettled as well. I think the reprocusions of an attack on Iran are... well quite scary. I mean, if we truly are in the last days (which I believe we are), this could affect us in ways we might never have imagined.

    Having said that, I too fear a confrontation with them is coming.
  • Jack Yan · 3 years ago
    I am concerned. Also some of the angst is coming from the MSM (OK, independent media are on the story, too) so I am not sure if I should believe it all. Maybe I am in denial? I do know a lot of Iranians hate their government, from the blogs I read, but after seeing all the suspected sites on Fox News this morning, that’s way too many for regular Iranians to rise up against.
  • Jack Yan · 3 years ago
    Brussels piece is fascinating, Randy, and very well written. I am not sure which scenario is most likely but I would say the author has them pretty well covered. The “power vacuum” scenarios which leave the US hurt are less likely, in my view, because I cannot see (call me narrow-minded) any major power that could fill the void, not even Islam. Europe is divided; Red China has shown anything but leadership in world affairs, and Islam has yet to show it can unite (take the Iraqi situation where Muslims kill Muslims), let alone “rule the world”.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    I've had similar thoughts Dawn and I agree with Jack. I really don't think that the Islamofascists will make it very far. They do not exhibit the ability to lead their own much less conquer the West. Plus, if Iran's alleged 40,000 homicide bombers did actually attack, it would take about 2 seconds to annihalate enough of their interests that they would be immobilized for centuries.

    At the same time I do think that the ideologues are so split in the United that an ideological civil war will have to be addressed before it cascades out of control and weakens us to the point of being splintered as a country for outside forces to take advantage of.

    The terrorists wouldn't be anywhere near as effective today if there weren't such deep divisions on how to deal with them. I also believe that terrorists wouldn't have been as successful a century ago without the mouthpiece of the MSM. The MSM and instant visuals/audio and pundits give them the exact payoff they want. A century ago, it took a long time (to us) for information to travel the globe.
  • Jack Yan · 3 years ago
    Oops, I meant ‘Red China has shown everything but leadership’ above!
    I totally agree about terrorism’s success, Randy. In the US, it is traditional for a conceding presidential candidate to ask his supporters to rally behind the victor. Senator Kerry did that but he, himself, is doing anything but. And we know that Osama bin Laden is watching this stuff in the MSM as he refers to it all the time in his tapes, so the west continues to arm the guy with propaganda that he can twist and turn to his own use.
    Whether one believes that Al-Qaeda is connected with Iraqi insurgents or not, the same news material is arming those nutters.
    In all cases, leadership has come with benevolence in the truly successful nations in Earth’s history, and I just don’t see that happening with the places that have Jihadist tendencies. Hence, the Iranian president does not appear to have popular support, if the bloggers there are to be believed. (They are very veiled in what they say, of course, as they face serious jail time if caught.)
    Still, we should be prepared—this is certainly not a message to say we sit still till those governments attack. History, too, has shown that those nations that just sit back tend to get beaten. We need to watch these guys like hawks.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    Very true Jack, which then brings to mind how the US has just sat back on it's immigration policies and now faces the wrath of close to 22 million illegal immigrants demanding amnesty.

    ahhh... it just goes on and on. I will be glad for when the Lord comes back :).
  • Jack Yan · 3 years ago
    no.
    I don’t know all the issues on the US immigration scenario. But what upsets me about this amnesty issue is how much attention it is getting. I’d say these aliens are getting more than those wanting to enter the United States through the proper, legal channels at the Department of Immigration. Have the illegals contributed anything to your welfare system to get the benefits that may accrue to them if their status is legitimized, for instance? I hope your politicians are asking that, but the furore suggests that common sense is not coming into play. And then all this crap about getting the Secretary of Defense to resign that seems endless!
    We don’t have quite as big a problem here, but a recent murder of a Chinese student by two other Chinese really bugs me here in New Zealand. For over a century we’ve established ourselves as a hard-working minority race, and due to lax immigration procedures, we’ve let in some highly suspect people that bring down the goodwill we’ve created.
  • Randy · 3 years ago
    I am sorry to hear about the murder of that Chinese student.

    Usually what seems to happen, to me at least, is that a public furor will erupt, everyone goes into a tizzy but eventually the think tanks do so much research and analysis that something good will shake out.

    However, the "good shaking out" part has become a lot more rare of an occurence in the past couple of decades.

    We shall see and I look forward to your post.